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Dear all

I am looking for comments/views about moving home -

Q1. do you do the move yourself? or do you hire a removal company?

Q2. how often do you move from one house to the next? and for what reasons?

Any advice will be great!


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  Report Abuse |  Date 6/1/2003 4:54:00 PM

danjohnson

 

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My girlfriend and I moved into a flat on the 4th (top) floor of a building with no lift. I will not move house again without using a removals company !


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  Report Abuse |  Date 6/1/2003 10:47:00 PM
 
colkerry

 

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quote:
Originally posted by danjohnson:
My girlfriend and I moved into a flat on the 4th (top) floor of a building with no lift. I will not move house again without using a removals company !

Thanks! I like to hear from anyone else who is surfing through this website what they think about moving their belongings from one house to another. The reason(s) for asking because my husband and I DIY our move from Sheffield to Leeds over three days ... it was alot of hard work with minor injuries suffered consequently. We will definitely call the professionals ... but are they worth the kind of money we pay for their services?


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  Report Abuse |  Date 7/1/2003 7:01:00 PM
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Do you when moving home - DIY or c... (in reply to Guest

Hi

I am currently setting up my own company to recommend removal companies to the public. My company is called Moving etc... and I have worked for many years in the removal industry.

We will be an Independant and FREE advice service to consumers moving house. We will be recommending only regulated companies so that if anything goes wrong and you do not get any satisfaction from the company themselves, they will be a member of a trade association that will be able to arbitrate between you and the removal company so that you get a satisfactory result from your complaint.

My advise on whether you should do a DIY move is based on several different factors.

Firstly consider how much you have to move. Anymore than a transit van load and you are looking at a lot of hard work. Don't forget that the professionals do this everyday, so what seems like hard work to you, may not be a problem for them.

Secondly, consider the access and layout of the properties you are moving from and to. Some larger items of furniture may not be easy to manoeuvre through doors and up stairs. Professional removal men may struggle themselves, but they have the experience and knowledge to get something out of a tight spot when needed.

Unless you have a very small amount of items to pack and move, always get two or three different removal companies to quote for your move. If you decide to do it yourself after that, then Good luck. What will only take a removal company a day to pack, move and deliver will take you at least two to three times longer if not more.

Even if you do decide to DIY it, usually removal companies give a free quotation and advise, so you can always see how hard they think it is before deciding to hire a van yourself.

Speak to your home insurers to see if they will insure your household contents during your move. Professional removal companies offer insurance in case anything gets broken, damaged or stolen. Check that your insurers will insure against damage if you are moving everything yourself.

If you do decide to move yourself, Be prepared! Make sure you have enough boxes, paper and tape for packing and plenty of friends willing to help. Your household contents can be deceiving in size. Never leave packing to the last minute. If you do, you run the risk of damages that could have been avoided.

Make sure the van that you hire will take the full contents of your property. If you need to go back and collect the last items on your moving day, you could face costly penalties for delaying the buyers from moving into your old house.

Most removal companies have "waiting time" clauses. This means that if you no longer own the property from say 12 noon on the completion day, but you are still moving out at 2 or 3 pm, you could get charged for the delay!

Always consider and way up your options before entertaining a DIY move. Although the bottom line on a removal quote may look steep, you may find that it saves you a lot of time and hassle later.

Sometimes you may be able to get the removal company to lower their price. This will depend on how busy they are and how complicated your move is. However, if you are moving during school holidays, at Christmas or at the end of the month, then don't expect a large discount, if at all. This is the busiest time for moving and if possible should be avoided if you want a successful move.

Always choose a removal company that is a member of the British Association of Removers or the Guild of Removers. Trade associations are there to help. So if you find that you have a problem with the company that you have used, speak to them. They can offer you advise and may be able to take control of the situation if it gets out of hand.

Lastly, go with your gut instinct. If you really like the services offered by a particular company, but they are too expensive, talk to them! They may be able to help.

If you think that moving everything yourself will be too much work, then it probably is! Don't forget that if you are not used to a lot of physical work, moving yourself will NOT be easy. Therefore be careful not to hurt yourself, and/or strain a muscle. Even the best removal men still do it sometimes.

If you need any more assistance, please reply and hopefully I can point you in the right direction.

Good Luck!


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  Report Abuse |  Date 22/12/2003 3:43:00 AM

Ian Spencer

 

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Do you when moving home - DIY or c... (in reply to Guest

Off topic, but how do you plan to get income if the service will be free?


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  Report Abuse |  Date 23/12/2003 2:16:00 AM
 
finchy

 

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We will be looking for subscriptions from removal companies that want to make a difference and promote the fact that they want to do things correctly.

It is our ultimate goal to have some kind of influence over the way that a house sale is processed. At the moment there are various problems with the legal process of a house sale.

The removal industry is the last in the chain of the house sale and therefore we are privy to all the delays that happen along the way. Many of these greatly affect our industry and the way that we are able to work.

As an industry, we are fed up with having to "put up" with these problems and are trying to do something about it.

I am not saying that all problems on a house move is caused before the removal company goes in, but many times, we are affected because there is a lack of time in order for us to schedule the move correctly.

On many occasions we are contacted only a week or so before the completion date. This is mainly due to the fact that the completion date is not set, in good time and the solicitors are pressurised to complete extremely quickly after exchange of contracts.

If there was a law that states that there has to be 14-28 days between exchange and completion then everyone all round would have much more notice in order to plan for the move.

At the moment there is nothing stopping solicitors from exchanging and completing on the same day. Surely this is not very practical at all? The stress that this causes to all parties concerned is too much.

Your thoughts on this subject would be appreciated.

[ December 28, 2003: Message edited by: finchy ]


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  Report Abuse |  Date 28/12/2003 2:35:00 AM

Ian Spencer

 

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Do you when moving home - DIY or c... (in reply to Guest

Do you plan to operate like BAR?

In terms of, if a removal company meets your standards / regs, you ask them to pay to carry a kind of trade mark or logo to indicate these companies are ok to use?

[ December 30, 2003: Message edited by: Ian Spencer ]


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  Report Abuse |  Date 30/12/2003 7:24:00 PM
 
finchy

 

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The companies that I will be recommending will already be members of a Trade Association. The Trade Associations are there to regulate their members. Our aim is to support the customer through their move, recommend good companies that can assist the consumer in the correct manner and gather feedback so that we know where the moving industry is going wrong.

Have you ever wondered which Plumber or Electrician to use?
I get asked all the time to recommend companies for moving home, by people that are not associated with the industry. Our aim is to put proceedures in place from the feedback that we get to make moving easier.


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  Report Abuse |  Date 4/1/2004 8:22:00 AM
 
www.aaavanman.co.uk

 

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RE: Do you when moving home - DIY o... (in reply to Guest

Finchy

first of all i would like to wish you good luck with the site. The more transparent the removal indusrty is the better for all concerned.Happier customers gives us all a better reputation.

my only worry is that your independent site will be funded by the subscriptions of the larger companies and therefore will neglect the smaller family business type companies.

whilst membership of a trade association gives some idea of security to a client - the staff of larger Removal companies are often temporary or agency employed. As a consequence there are many horror stories of staff being careless etc etc. Smaller companies can often give a better service because they care more about their reputation and word of mouth...they can't afford not to!!!

Its unfortunate that BAR membership excludes any members operating with 3.5 ton vehicles only.In a place like london with narrow streets and lots of parking restrictions such vehicles are often preferrable to a 7.5 ton truck. This exclusion makes it harder for smaller companies to gain the status good workmanship that the big boys can afford.


www.aaavanman.co.uk


< Message edited by www.aaavanman.co.uk -- 11/9/2004 12:15:02 AM >


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  Report Abuse |  Date 11/9/2004 12:16:43 AM
 
sherbnic@hotmail.com

 

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RE: Do you when moving home - DIY o... (in reply to Guest

Hey all,

I have just recently moved home for the second time in about 3 months. The first time i tried doing the move myself. At first i thought it wouldnt be too hard, and i thought i could save some money. Unfortunaltely i was wrong. I ended up straining my lower back, putting me out of work for a week. so, i guess you could say it wasnt worth it. Im still seeing a physio now.
The second time around we decided to use a company. There is so many in London, and they are all offering the best prices etc. In the end we went to one called Handy Moves. When we were getting quotes, they were the cheapest by far, so we were a bit sceptical about the quality they would provide. To our suprise, they were actually really good. They were hard working and quite relaxed which made it alot easier for us. They went a little over the time they estimated, but the price was still lower than what the other companies had quoted for the same time.
I am definately using them again!

One thing i can advise about aswell, is to give a removal company as much information as you can. This helps alot so you get a more accurate quote. and make sure you ask them all the details about insurance, if the price includes VAT and how much it will cost if you go over the allocated time. I found that with all the information i gave them they gave me the best and most accurate quote.

To sum up, unless you're young fit and willing to put in alot of effort and pain to get the move done, leave it to the professionals! i think its the best way to know your items are safe and will be moved properly. even if it costs a little bit extra!


Cheers
Nick
  Report Abuse |  Date 9/2/2007 4:03:19 PM
 
tickeverybox

 

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RE: Do you when moving home - DIY o... (in reply to Guest

Having moved house about 15 times over the past 10 years, each time doing it ourselves, I can safely say I will NEVER EVER move myself again. I have never had such awful, stressful experiences, especially if you and your partner have strength/height differences. Paying professionals is money well spent.
  Report Abuse |  Date 24/2/2007 1:07:04 PM
 
LAYSTAR

 

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RE: Do you when moving home - DIY o... (in reply to Guest

I have moved many times and nearly always fairly local. I can honestly say that the removal firms were well worth the money.

Doing it yourself is seriously stressful and very hard work. Remember also that you are up against the clock because, contractually, you have to be out of the place you are selling. You are then up against it because, naturally, you want gear in your new place and at least safely locked up and secure.

Removal firms do this every day and do it well
  Report Abuse |  Date 5/3/2007 7:06:44 PM
 
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RE: Do you when moving home - DIY o... (in reply to Guest

I realise this is an old post - but I found it via a Google search!

My first move (when I didn't have too much furniture) I did with a hired van - it took most of the day but at least the fee wasn't too bad. Since then however I have moved three times more and used a removals company each time. In doing so I found http://www.reallymoving.com to be very useful as the prices quoted were better than I had received when making phone enquiries.

Don't move on your own unless you are a student moving rooms or don't have too much in the way of bulky goods... otherwise it can be a headache you can do without!

Thanks,
Brad
  Report Abuse |  Date 25/6/2007 4:04:08 PM
 
simhar

 

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RE: Do you when moving home - DIY o... (in reply to ukbrad1980

hehehehe !!!

cheers

simhar
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  Report Abuse |  Date 8/8/2007 7:23:26 AM
 
Ria2007

 

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RE: Do you when moving home - DIY o... (in reply to Guest

Hi,
The following check list may help you.
You will need to jot down telephone numbers of the following people.
Solicitors
Estate Agents
Mortgage Lender
Mortgate Broker
Van rental
Removal Company
Storage Company
Pet Hotel
Then you will need to request final bills and changeover details for
Gas Supplier
Electricity Supplier
Water Supplier
Local Council Rates
Telephone, digital or cable TV
Plus don't forget to let everyone know you are moving giving them your new address and contact numbers. Hope this is helpful.
  Report Abuse |  Date 20/8/2007 1:51:36 PM
 
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RE: Do you when moving home - DIY o... (in reply to Guest

I run a House Removals brokers http://www.movingeverywhere.co.uk. In some instances I would definately say DIY moving is better.

It's always cheaper to Do it Yourself, but as many people are aware trying to save money very rarely works out. A few posts on here show just that.

If you successfully move then fantastic - you have saved money - I would imagine for every 2 or 3 good DIY moves there is a bad move - I have personal experience of a bad DIY move a number of years ago.

If you are moving a small flat or house, and you have the fitness, time, experience of driving a van or lorry, and some friends who will help, then a DIY Moves is obviously cheaper and better for you - as long as no damage is caused or delays in you moving out - causing people moving in to have to wait. I would be dishonest to say anything other than this.

However what happens if moving a flat and the lift does not work - would you rather pay someone to carry things up the stairs for you. Its back breaking - I know!!

9 times out of 10 the only reason a person opts for a DIY move is based on cost - Be honest, do you look forward to packing, loading and unloading your furniture - if you do and you need some work contact me.

If removal companies did not charge so much - everyone would use a removal company. BUT do they really charge too much? Some do - "we don't".

In the house moving process - Removal companies charge less than estate agents, solicitors, and mortgage companies. Which one will negotiate on price? The Removal companies will to a degree.

A removal company is to take responsibility for the safe transportation of your personal items and prize posessions and deliver in the condition they were collected in. They also have to be timely, reliable and above all professional, and friendly too - are all the others like this in the buying / renting process?

More importantly, your items are insured so any damages or loss are covered. The average household items are valued at in excess of £20,000.00. If you damage your own items whilst in transit from a DIY move your insurance company may not pay out. If the movers damage it then they have their own insurance.

Many DIY movers are inexperienced at driving a lorry, have you seen the condition of many hire vans & lorries, they are like bumper cars. Do you know if you bump a hire van the excess is between £200 and £500.00. So potentially add this to the cost of your DIY move.

Do they know how to load a vehicle to ensure sofas don't rub, wood is not scratched and glass is not broken. Probably not - A mover is trained and skilled at loading a vehicle to minimise movement in the back of the lorry.

The previous post from Sherbnic is a very realistic post which happens to many DIY movers wanting to save a bit of money. The intention is to have a very easy move (how difficult can it be?) Then when the big day arrives and you roll your sleeves up, you find a few friends have better things to do! lugging boxes and sofas is not the easiest thing to do! You may delay the people moving in to your house causing them to be charged for the delay! you start to rush, pick up a box do yourself an inury!

Also, many people who DIY move are regular people who maybe visit the gym once in a while, then one day lift maybe 2 - 3 tonnes of furniture and boxes - are not conditioned for it, and pull a muscle or 2/3 days later are aching and can't stand up.

Everyone wants to save money. But at what cost? Thats where we can help - As a House Removal Broker we have access to hundreds of removals companies up and down the UK, who provide us with affordable, quality assured house moves.

We can assist with arranging your move, we can supply boxes, arrange storage, give advice, and just be here to help when you may be getting stressed out.

Being prepared for a move and paying for professional help is the best way to ensure your move will go stress free on the day.

We will offer a 10% Cashback on completion to any customer who has arranged their move with Movingeverywhere.co.uk
http://www.movingeverywhere.co.uk
  Report Abuse |  Date 9/11/2007 8:05:27 PM
 
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People in the uk move more than any other european country on average 12 times in a lifetime



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  Report Abuse |  Date 9/1/2008 10:47:05 AM
 
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RE: Do you when moving home - DIY o... (in reply to Guest

We recently moved into our new House. We were lucky as we only lived in our rented property 5 minutes away. We hired a man and van who took all the big stuff and then took the other things in our car. Stressful but less of a cost. Next time I would definately use a removal company. As far as making it easier though I was concerned about the time to change all my bills. Got frustrated with Gas as on hold for 20 mins but got told about a website where I changed everything online at www.iammoving.com. Everything now comes to my new address even my council tax and gym membership so no shock bills building up. Hope this helps.
  Report Abuse |  Date 17/1/2008 9:37:59 AM
 
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Use MoveNanny - they provide free access to all steps you need for moving!
  Report Abuse |  Date 24/4/2008 11:10:17 AM
 
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RE: Do you when moving home - DIY o... (in reply to Guest

i did once but i will never do it again
Using professional movers can seem like a dream come true. Movers like http://www.boxyourstuff.com/index.asp come to your house, pack your belongings, and move them to your new home for you. What could be better?
  Report Abuse |  Date 18/8/2008 12:17:50 PM
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